How is the India market shaping up for Nokia? The number of clients has reduced sharply.
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India is one of the most critical ones for both business and delivery. Having a healthy few customers is always good. I’m not saying we do have a few, but that’s something for the regulator and the government to think about. But we see that those customers are providing decent business volumes to us. Even though we’re not present in the third private telco [Reliance Jio] in wireless space, we will remain an aspirant there.
From a global perspective, where does India stand in terms of 5G?<\/strong>
If you look at the USA, China, Japan, Korea, there is 5G even though we continue to deploy substantial 4G. But the conversation is not about 4G anymore. It’s about 5G and it’s leading to 5G advanced. The conversation in the US, China and some parts of mainland Europe has evolved to what 6G is going to look like. These conversations don’t happen in India.
But if India would have launched 5G at the same time as the US or China, only the top surface would have been able to afford that because the device price points were completely different from what India is used to. So, I think the time to serve the demand for 5G is here, and now.
Indian telcos are making sure that their readiness is there to capture the opportunity beyond mobile broadband. Some of the operators in India took a while to prepare for 4G nationwide. I don’t think anybody wants to make that mistake again.
Is Nokia in a better place to get a bigger slice of the 5G pie in India?
<\/strong> There are big opportunities in fiberisation and fixed broadband spaces. Additionally, there is also a tremendous opportunity in IP-fication of the country. The conversations are now evolving to do network slicing, will continue to evolve towards 5G core enablement of enterprise in India. There are fantastic opportunities we have because of the install base we sit on.
Do you think India needed 5G trials at all?<\/strong>
Trial serves several purposes. For example, users of the technology, which is the service provider, are getting to learn the technology. Are you going to onboard a few enterprises to see how you can address 5G beyond mobile broadband? Use the trial for that purpose. But if the trial is going to be about finding throughput or latency, I am less sure that you actually learn something that hasn’t been proven.
What could a 5G service cost Indian consumers, versus 4G?<\/strong>
It's quite diverse. There are markets where operators have seen a small uplift in ARPU (average revenue per user) on the back of 5G. Then we start to see some of the pricing normalising. In some markets, the pricing is used by the operators to offer 5G as a differentiated service.
Airtel and Jio are getting into equipment development using OpenRAN, etc? Does this pose a threat to traditional vendors like Nokia?<\/strong>
We are making sure that our products are ready for a disaggregated procurement. I actually also see that this value shift creates an opportunity because if we move this disaggregation towards software in a good way, it will allow for new software models to occur not just in telecom operators' space but beyond. It's not a dramatic increase in investment, it is a mild shift to get the value shift captured.
In India, telcos will have to build system integration (SI) capabilities, if they want to go towards disaggregated networks. They have to see if they have it (SI) in-house or they outsource it.
Certain operators in India have more competence than others but I actually don’t see any of them start manufacturing radios. In my opinion, a globally harmonised software stack is the right way to go. But I don't see operators being a full vendor. In certain cases, they will take on certain capabilities, they will have to if they want to procure disaggregated networks.
You don't see a threat from that approach…<\/strong>
I see this as a value shift. You could look at this approach a value shift or as a threat. I just need to prepare for it. Today, if I end up doing eight out of the 10 things then I need to make sure I invest in those areas and be market leaders.
How do you view the Indian 5G standard – 5Gi?<\/strong>
There have been instances in previous generations of technologies for markets bigger than India trying to diversify the standard for local use. That didn’t pan out very well.
So, globally harmonised standards are the right way for an industry that is becoming the lynchpin of connectivity around the world. Otherwise, you will increase the cost of connectivity.
From Nokia’s perspective, what would you want from the new telecom minister?<\/strong>
I want to bring Bell Labs<\/a> assets to India. We have a small presence in India already with the lab, but I want to bring the global assets to revolutionise the Indian enterprise in the next decade. If the minister is open, I think we will be very open to having those conversations.
Bell Labs’ research is very much around progressive countries. I want to now find a confluence of that research with India because I know not only India but the world will benefit.
Your thoughts on PLI scheme for telecom equipment manufacturing.<\/strong>
We're expanding our manufacturing capability. We're applying for the PLI scheme to DoT. So I think from our perspective, it is a positive step.
Having closely seen the local telecom market, where do you see India for Nokia globally?
<\/strong>Nokia has traditionally done very good in this market. We have a pretty decent market share in wireless and fixed networks. We are substantial in India, from a go to market perspective. We also have a sizeable R&D and operations along with manufacturing. Manufacturing now has a sizeable contribution to global supplies. India is one of the most critical ones for both business and for delivery.
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