Ashwini Vaishnaw<\/em> , minister in-charge of railways, communications, electronics & IT, says social media<\/a> outfits need to improve their accountability. He has called for greater self-regulation<\/a>. In an interaction with TOI,<\/em> <\/em>talks on a range of issues from 5G rollout to revamp of railways and linking all post offices with the core banking network to the strategy for state-run telcos BSNL and MTNL. Excerpts:<\/em>

The Budget has a large capital expenditure element for railways. What is the path ahead?<\/strong>

There is a record allocation — support of Rs 1. 37 lakh crore will help meet railways’ requirements. Gaps will be filled, and it will help reduce the logistics cost. There are three major pillars of the PM’s vision. The passenger experience has to change through steps on stations, trains, safety, timeliness, and cleanliness. We are getting new-generation trains. Second, we want the railways to provide transformational power for the economy. We want the share of railways to increase from the current 27-28%, so that the logistics cost comes down. We want to make more investment in services so that more goods can be carried, new products can come and there is a change in the way it operates. We want to service small industries, which do not have goods to fill up a full truck, or a barcode-based mechanism, just like courier companies. We can use the postal network to deliver goods. The third pillar is about making railways’ future-ready for 2047 by getting the latest technology and linking it with the startup ecosystem.

What are the rollout plans?<\/strong>

We have very good people but there are a lot of rules and regulations that are no longer relevant for which we have taken several steps. For instance, if someone wants to introduce new technology, then

the entity had to bid at a cost that was lower than the existing ones. This was holding up the entry of new players. We made a small change that allowed them to bid, but the price had to match the lowest one. Similarly, we have allowed for a change in the design of wagons to meet the requirement of private players.

You have budgeted for a 5% increase in freight on the back of a 10% growth this year. Is it a conservative estimate?<\/strong>

We will do higher, may be 15-16%. We are making massive investments in wagons and signalling systems, for which we are deploying Kavach. We will deploy Kavach across 2,000 km, starting with the busier routes. I have asked for surveys to deploy it over another 6,000 km. If we can do it across 7,000-8,000 km of our network then we can look at other markets.

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<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>
How do you compete with airlines?
<\/strong>
For distances up to 150km, road travel is good. Between 150km and 900km, railways is good, and beyond that, it is good for air. We should not be competing against each other but collaborate in a way so that the consumer gets the best service. We need to get very good stations and new-generation trains. For instance, Vande Bharat reaches 100 kmph in 49 seconds, you can turn your seats and the newer version, whose test run will start from April, will come with air springs. The next-generation of 400 new trains announced in the Budget will see lower vibrations, noise, and more seating comfort.

Will Vande Bharat be the semi-high speed trains?<\/strong>

High-speed trains run at over 200kmph and these trains have the potential to reach 180kmph. The second version can go to 200kmph, provided the tracks are ready for it.

Are the tracks ready?<\/strong>

It’s a big
policy<\/a> question, how fast can we run our trains on the surface. In many countries you have elevated networks, including in Japan, Korea, several countries in Europe, Taiwan, and China came in a big way. In China, the passenger network was elevated and the ground network was used for cargo, which can do very well at 60kmph.

There is a plan to link post offices with the banking network. How will it help?<\/strong>

Post offices have been traditionally considered as a means for delivering letters. Four-five years ago, the PM took an initiative to make them a bank for people in rural areas. Now we have core banking solutions in around 20,000 post offices. We have to take it to all the 1. 5 lakh post offices; imagine the power of financial inclusion using this. Second, DBT, government services such as Aadhaar enrolment, railway tickets, and financial products that have no credit risk can be delivered through post offices given their huge reach. Then, how do we connect it with the railways and integrate the two?

BSNL has received large funding, how do you propose to use it?<\/strong>

After many years BSNL has made an operating profit because the package announced in 2019 has been successfully implemented. The next step is to make it sustainable. The Rs 45,000-crore capital outlay will go for two-three things. First, the entire network will be upgraded to 4G so that we can move to 5G in the next one or two years. Second, we need to upgrade the IT system. BSNL provides us support where commercial services are unviable.

What happened to the plan to merge MTNL and BSNL?<\/strong>

We are going step by step. MTNL has a huge debt. If you merge the two, the entire debt comes on BSNL’s balance sheet. We have to ensure that BSNL emerges as a strong candidate in the telecom market.

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<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>
When do we see the rollout of 5G?<\/strong>

There are two elements — first, getting the service up and running. Second, developing the entire technology stack. TRAI is on the verge of completing its consultations and will submit the recommendations in midor end-March. Then we can go for auctions and start the rollout.

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<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>
Can we see auctions in the middle of the next financial year?<\/strong>

Yes. That’s the first part. Second is developing the entire technology stack that’s 5G equipment and handsets. There is serious work going on and soon you should get some good news.

How far have we progressed on the semiconductor production side?<\/strong>

The semiconductor policy has received tremendous response. People are ready to put in billions of dollars. Our policy is comprehensive and over and above that is 85,000 semiconductor engineers. Very good land parcels have come up and states have plans to come in a big way. We should be successful.

On social media, there has been a constant battle and the impression one gets is that they have different sets of standards for countries. Companies say the Indian government has the maximum number of requests to pull down content. Where do you strike a balance?<\/strong>

Social media’s base and its regulation are continuously evolving. World over there is a thought process around technology being a great boon but it must become more accountable. What is going out there and who is going to check it. Shouldn’t the industry be the first one to be the gatekeeper? What is the grievances redressal mechanism? If there is content created by a newspaper, is that newspaper getting a fair share of revenue, which is generated out of that content? Is privacy getting disturbed because of the way social media uses data? We came out with a comprehensive policy in 2021 and almost all social media intermediaries have fully complied with. India is such a huge market and with such a big user base is bound to have a large number of concerns. There is so much diversity in the country and each will have its own sensitivities. All these things make it very difficult to give a comprehensive outcome and it has to be a continuous balancing thing. We have to ensure that users are safe. The potential misuse in terms of igniting law and order situations, compromising people’s dignity, all these things are non-negotiable. We must take harsh actions. The final point is we have a federal struc- ture, where police are with the states. So we have to create a structure where the Centre and states have their roles.

Where do you want an improvement in response?<\/strong>

Improvement in accountability is very important. Self-checking. There are good algorithms available. In other geographies, such as the US, it’s very diffi- cult to put hate content because they have developed it (algorithms) and have invested in these. But in our geography, they have probably not invested that much in removing the hate content. That’s why people have to complain. There has to be self-regulation.

Congress has made certain allegations on
Pegasus<\/a>. What’s your response?<\/strong>

We believe and trust the judiciary. We believe that the judicial process will come out with a fair, right, and judicious conclusion. We should respect that process.
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我们必须确保用户在社交媒体是安全的;不可转让其滥用,《法律与秩序:Ashwini Vaishnaw

在与钢铁洪流的交互,Vaishnaw会谈在一系列问题上从5 g推出改革铁路和连接所有邮局与核心银行网络为国营电信公司BSNL和MTNL策略。

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Ashwini Vaishnaw 部长负责铁路、通信、电子和它说社交媒体机构需要提高他们的责任。他呼吁更大自律。在与钢铁洪流的交互, 会谈在一系列问题上从5 g推出改革铁路和连接所有邮局与核心银行网络为国营电信公司BSNL和MTNL策略。摘录:

有大量资本支出预算为铁路元素。前方的道路是什么?

有一个记录分配-支持Rs 1。37个十万的卢比将有助于满足铁路的需求。差距将,这将有助于降低物流成本。有三个点的视力的主要支柱。乘客经验改变通过步骤站,火车、安全性、及时性和清洁。我们新一代的火车。第二,我们希望铁路提供转型经济的力量。我们希望铁路增加的份额从目前的27 - 28%,物流成本归结。我们想要更多的投资服务,可以进行更多的商品,新产品可以来改变其运作方式。我们要服务的小型企业,没有货物填满一个完整的卡车,或者barcode-based机制,就像快递公司。 We can use the postal network to deliver goods. The third pillar is about making railways’ future-ready for 2047 by getting the latest technology and linking it with the startup ecosystem.

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推广计划是什么?

我们有很好的人,但有很多规章制度,不再是相关的,我们采取了几项措施。例如,如果有人想引进新技术

实体必须出价的成本低于现有的。这是新玩家的进入。我们做了一个小小的改变,允许他们报价,但是价格与最低的一个。同样,我们允许改变车的设计以满足私人玩家的要求。

你预算运费增加了5%在今年增长了10%。这是一个保守的估计吗?

我们会做高,可能15 - 16%。我们正在大量投资在马车和信号系统,我们部署Kavach。我们将部署Kavach跨越2000公里,从繁忙的路线。我已经要求调查部署在另一个6000公里。如果我们能做到在7000 - 8000公里的网络我们可以看看其他市场。


你怎么与航空公司竞争?

距离150公里,道路旅游是好的。150公里和900公里,铁路是好的,除此之外,它对空气有好处。我们不应该相互竞争而合作的方式让顾客得到最好的服务。我们需要很好的站和新一代的火车。例如,Vande巴拉特在49秒内达到100公里,你可以把你的座椅和新版本,其测试运行将从4月开始,将会与空气弹簧。新一代的400年预算将会看到新的列车宣布降低振动,噪音,和更多的乘坐舒适性。

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将Vande巴拉特semi-high高速列车?

高速列车运行超过200公里,这些列车有可能达到180公里。第二个版本可以去200公里,轨道提供准备。

轨道准备好了吗?

这是一个很大的政策问题,我们跑的有多快火车表面上。提高网络在许多国家,包括日本,韩国,欧洲几个国家,台湾,中国走了进来。在中国,客运网络高架与地面网络是用于货物,在60公里能做的很好。

有一个邮局和银行网络计划链接。它将如何帮助?

邮局一直在传统上认为是一种传递信件。四五年前,点了一项让他们银行在农村地区的人。现在我们有大约20000个邮局的核心银行解决方案。我们必须把它所有的1。5十万的邮局;使用这个想象金融包容的力量。其次,印度生物技术部,政府服务如Aadhaar招生,火车票,没有信用风险的金融产品可以通过邮局交付给他们巨大的影响力。然后,我们如何连接的铁路和整合两个?

BSNL已经收到了大量资金,你如何打算使用它呢?

经过多年BSNL使得营业利润,因为包在2019年宣布已成功实施。下一步是使其可持续发展。价值45000卢比的资本支出将会在2 - 3的事情。首先,整个网络将会升级到4 g,这样我们可以移动到5 g在未来一年或两年。第二,我们需要升级系统。BSNL提供了美国的支持,商业服务是不可行的。

计划合并MTNL和BSNL到底怎么了?

我们要一步一步。MTNL有巨大的债务。如果合并两个,整个债务BSNL资产负债表上。我们必须确保BSNL出现在电信市场上强有力的候选人。


当我们看到5 g的推广吗?

有两个元素——首先,服务启动并运行。第二,开发整个技术堆栈。火车即将完成磋商,将提交建议midor车厂。然后我们可以去拍卖,并开始推出。


我们可以看到下个财政年度拍卖的中间吗?

是的。这是第一部分。二是发展整个技术堆栈的5 g设备和手机。有严重的工作,很快你应该得到一些好消息。乐动扑克

多远我们在半导体生产方面发展吗?

半导体政策收到了巨大的反应。人们已经准备好投入数十亿美元。我们的政策是全面的和超过85000半导体工程师。很好地包裹上来,州计划在很大程度上。我们应该成功。

在社交媒体上,有不断的战斗和印象深刻的是,他们的国家有不同的标准。公司表示,印度政府的最大请求数下拉内容。你平衡在哪里?

社交媒体的基础和监管不断进化。世界各地有一个思维过程技术大有裨益,但必须成为更负责任。发生了什么,谁来检查它。这个行业不应该第一个看门人?不满的补救机制是什么?如果有内容由一份报纸,报纸得到应得的收入,这是生成的内容?乐动扑克隐私越来越不安,因为社交媒体使用数据?我们在2021年推出了一个全面的政策,几乎所有的社会媒体中介完全遵守。印度是一个巨大的市场和这么大的用户群必然会有大量的问题。有这么多的多样性,每个人将拥有自己的敏感问题。 All these things make it very difficult to give a comprehensive outcome and it has to be a continuous balancing thing. We have to ensure that users are safe. The potential misuse in terms of igniting law and order situations, compromising people’s dignity, all these things are non-negotiable. We must take harsh actions. The final point is we have a federal struc- ture, where police are with the states. So we have to create a structure where the Centre and states have their roles.

你在哪里想要改善反应吗?

改善问责制是非常重要的。自检。有很好的算法。在其他地区,如美国,很不能下放——崇拜把讨厌的内容,因为他们已经开发出(算法),投资于这些。但在我们的地理位置,他们有可能不会那么多投资于消除讨厌的内容。这就是为什么人抱怨。必须有自律。

国会使某些指控珀加索斯。你的反应是什么?

我们相信和信任司法。我们相信司法程序将推出一个公平、正确,明智的结论。我们应该尊重这一过程。
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Ashwini Vaishnaw<\/em> , minister in-charge of railways, communications, electronics & IT, says social media<\/a> outfits need to improve their accountability. He has called for greater self-regulation<\/a>. In an interaction with TOI,<\/em> <\/em>talks on a range of issues from 5G rollout to revamp of railways and linking all post offices with the core banking network to the strategy for state-run telcos BSNL and MTNL. Excerpts:<\/em>

The Budget has a large capital expenditure element for railways. What is the path ahead?<\/strong>

There is a record allocation — support of Rs 1. 37 lakh crore will help meet railways’ requirements. Gaps will be filled, and it will help reduce the logistics cost. There are three major pillars of the PM’s vision. The passenger experience has to change through steps on stations, trains, safety, timeliness, and cleanliness. We are getting new-generation trains. Second, we want the railways to provide transformational power for the economy. We want the share of railways to increase from the current 27-28%, so that the logistics cost comes down. We want to make more investment in services so that more goods can be carried, new products can come and there is a change in the way it operates. We want to service small industries, which do not have goods to fill up a full truck, or a barcode-based mechanism, just like courier companies. We can use the postal network to deliver goods. The third pillar is about making railways’ future-ready for 2047 by getting the latest technology and linking it with the startup ecosystem.

What are the rollout plans?<\/strong>

We have very good people but there are a lot of rules and regulations that are no longer relevant for which we have taken several steps. For instance, if someone wants to introduce new technology, then

the entity had to bid at a cost that was lower than the existing ones. This was holding up the entry of new players. We made a small change that allowed them to bid, but the price had to match the lowest one. Similarly, we have allowed for a change in the design of wagons to meet the requirement of private players.

You have budgeted for a 5% increase in freight on the back of a 10% growth this year. Is it a conservative estimate?<\/strong>

We will do higher, may be 15-16%. We are making massive investments in wagons and signalling systems, for which we are deploying Kavach. We will deploy Kavach across 2,000 km, starting with the busier routes. I have asked for surveys to deploy it over another 6,000 km. If we can do it across 7,000-8,000 km of our network then we can look at other markets.

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<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>
How do you compete with airlines?
<\/strong>
For distances up to 150km, road travel is good. Between 150km and 900km, railways is good, and beyond that, it is good for air. We should not be competing against each other but collaborate in a way so that the consumer gets the best service. We need to get very good stations and new-generation trains. For instance, Vande Bharat reaches 100 kmph in 49 seconds, you can turn your seats and the newer version, whose test run will start from April, will come with air springs. The next-generation of 400 new trains announced in the Budget will see lower vibrations, noise, and more seating comfort.

Will Vande Bharat be the semi-high speed trains?<\/strong>

High-speed trains run at over 200kmph and these trains have the potential to reach 180kmph. The second version can go to 200kmph, provided the tracks are ready for it.

Are the tracks ready?<\/strong>

It’s a big
policy<\/a> question, how fast can we run our trains on the surface. In many countries you have elevated networks, including in Japan, Korea, several countries in Europe, Taiwan, and China came in a big way. In China, the passenger network was elevated and the ground network was used for cargo, which can do very well at 60kmph.

There is a plan to link post offices with the banking network. How will it help?<\/strong>

Post offices have been traditionally considered as a means for delivering letters. Four-five years ago, the PM took an initiative to make them a bank for people in rural areas. Now we have core banking solutions in around 20,000 post offices. We have to take it to all the 1. 5 lakh post offices; imagine the power of financial inclusion using this. Second, DBT, government services such as Aadhaar enrolment, railway tickets, and financial products that have no credit risk can be delivered through post offices given their huge reach. Then, how do we connect it with the railways and integrate the two?

BSNL has received large funding, how do you propose to use it?<\/strong>

After many years BSNL has made an operating profit because the package announced in 2019 has been successfully implemented. The next step is to make it sustainable. The Rs 45,000-crore capital outlay will go for two-three things. First, the entire network will be upgraded to 4G so that we can move to 5G in the next one or two years. Second, we need to upgrade the IT system. BSNL provides us support where commercial services are unviable.

What happened to the plan to merge MTNL and BSNL?<\/strong>

We are going step by step. MTNL has a huge debt. If you merge the two, the entire debt comes on BSNL’s balance sheet. We have to ensure that BSNL emerges as a strong candidate in the telecom market.

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<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>
When do we see the rollout of 5G?<\/strong>

There are two elements — first, getting the service up and running. Second, developing the entire technology stack. TRAI is on the verge of completing its consultations and will submit the recommendations in midor end-March. Then we can go for auctions and start the rollout.

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<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>
Can we see auctions in the middle of the next financial year?<\/strong>

Yes. That’s the first part. Second is developing the entire technology stack that’s 5G equipment and handsets. There is serious work going on and soon you should get some good news.

How far have we progressed on the semiconductor production side?<\/strong>

The semiconductor policy has received tremendous response. People are ready to put in billions of dollars. Our policy is comprehensive and over and above that is 85,000 semiconductor engineers. Very good land parcels have come up and states have plans to come in a big way. We should be successful.

On social media, there has been a constant battle and the impression one gets is that they have different sets of standards for countries. Companies say the Indian government has the maximum number of requests to pull down content. Where do you strike a balance?<\/strong>

Social media’s base and its regulation are continuously evolving. World over there is a thought process around technology being a great boon but it must become more accountable. What is going out there and who is going to check it. Shouldn’t the industry be the first one to be the gatekeeper? What is the grievances redressal mechanism? If there is content created by a newspaper, is that newspaper getting a fair share of revenue, which is generated out of that content? Is privacy getting disturbed because of the way social media uses data? We came out with a comprehensive policy in 2021 and almost all social media intermediaries have fully complied with. India is such a huge market and with such a big user base is bound to have a large number of concerns. There is so much diversity in the country and each will have its own sensitivities. All these things make it very difficult to give a comprehensive outcome and it has to be a continuous balancing thing. We have to ensure that users are safe. The potential misuse in terms of igniting law and order situations, compromising people’s dignity, all these things are non-negotiable. We must take harsh actions. The final point is we have a federal struc- ture, where police are with the states. So we have to create a structure where the Centre and states have their roles.

Where do you want an improvement in response?<\/strong>

Improvement in accountability is very important. Self-checking. There are good algorithms available. In other geographies, such as the US, it’s very diffi- cult to put hate content because they have developed it (algorithms) and have invested in these. But in our geography, they have probably not invested that much in removing the hate content. That’s why people have to complain. There has to be self-regulation.

Congress has made certain allegations on
Pegasus<\/a>. What’s your response?<\/strong>

We believe and trust the judiciary. We believe that the judicial process will come out with a fair, right, and judicious conclusion. We should respect that process.
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